"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
If this cause, that is dear to my heart, is doomed to fail, I pray Heaven may let me fail with it, while my face is toward the enemy and my arm battling for that which I know is right.
I am with the South in death, in victory or defeat. I believe the North is about to wage a brutal and unholy war on a people who have done them no wrong, in violation of the constitution and the fundamental principles of the government. They no longer acknowledge that all government derives its validity from the consent of the governed."
General Patrick Cleburne - Confederate States of America
Saturday, May 22, 2010
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Comments by IntenseDebate
deleted1838548 137p · 778 weeks ago
deleted9620144 119p · 778 weeks ago
Or are we to apply this to when we kicked mexico's butt and now they are claiming ownership of the southern United Sates?
Of course poor losers will always whine and twist the truth to make themselves look better. It's been that way for a long time. Although now it has become every day common place.
USA_Hooyah 65p · 778 weeks ago
http://blueandgraytrail.com/features/southerncaus...
--vs--
http://blueandgraytrail.com/features/northerncaus...
... More than you probably would want to know, about a time and place None of us had any vested interest in.
deleted9620144 119p · 778 weeks ago
The North, seeing greater growth and industrialization wanted to impose tariffs on imports so the south had to buy from the north forcing them to support their growth even though they didn't want to. This also gave them more control over the government because of population.
So we had a civil war because the north wanted to grow more, free slaves and market their goods within the United States and the south wanted to continue their ownership of slaves, not move forward, buy from overseas for cheaper and kick back and drink their whiskey on their front porches?
Couldn't the whole thing been avoided by the south just getting up off their butts and growing a bit? That would have kept some equality in the government allowing them to have a louder voice.
I realize that's pretty much the large print Reader's Digest version. And it wasn't more than I wanted to know.
I have recently though, been trying to go back to the original information on things, so as not to view information like this. Two completely different versions of the exact same time in our history. Although we will never know what the true intentions of the people involved were, since none of us were there. That and I've lost my ability to channel deceased leaders from the US back in that time frame... LOL
TruthInOurTime 46p · 778 weeks ago
With that said when the federal government grows to a certain size it begins to think it is bigger than the sum of the parts and can walk over the states, which of course goes on to this day and most State governments are complicit because they get Federal money. The War of Northern Aggression was no more fought over slavery than WWII was fought to free the marxist jews in Germany. Yet history is written by the victor and now we are taught the version which has the Federal government as the party in the right and the States were just full of racist bigots who liked to whip black slaves.
The fact of the matter is slavery was on the way out regardless of what laws lincoln passed (the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the south, which was an entirely separate country at the time) With new advances in technology it made it impractical for farmers to feed and cloth blacks when a machine would do the work more efficiently.
It is also important to note the labor employed by the US at the time, where children worked in sweatshops for pennies per week and weren't given food, clothing and medical help free of charge. So it wasn't as if these unskilled blacks could've waltzed into the equivalent of a 6 figure job if only the racist Southerners had let them. If they weren't in the South working on farms 100% cared for, they would be in the north barely making enough money to eat let alone buy clothes shelter and medical help.
Today we are at a very similar juncture where the people are rising up and demanding more States rights (as insured by the 10th amendment) Take Arizona for example, they are demonized universally by the big government marxists for exercising their rights. Now if LA was writing the textbooks how do you think they would portray Arizona? As a bunch of racist hate mongers, even though that has 0 basis in Truth.
deleted9620144 119p · 778 weeks ago
However I have to agree, right now the government has gotten way too big for it's britches and needs to be taken down a notch or 12!
Wait WWII was to free Jews? Crap how did I miss that one? Oh wait, could be because my Dad fought in it, so I got to hear a bit more than what the government was telling people.
Ralph Osbon · 777 weeks ago