Thursday, May 27, 2010

25 Questions To Ask Anyone Who Is Delusional Enough To Believe That This Economic Recovery Is Real

By Michael Snyder - BLN Contributing Writer

If you listen to the mainstream media long enough, you just might be tempted to believe that the United States has emerged from the recession and is now in the middle of a full-fledged economic recovery. In fact, according to Obama administration officials, the great American economic machine has roared back to life, stronger and more vibrant than ever before. But is that really the case? Of course not. You would have to be delusional to believe that. What did happen was that all of the stimulus packages and government spending and new debt that Obama and the U.S. Congress pumped into the economy bought us a little bit of time. But they have also made our long-term economic problems far worse. The reality is that the U.S. cannot keep supporting an economy on an ocean of red ink forever. At some point the charade is going to come crashing down.

And GDP is not a really good measure of the economic health of a nation. For example, if you would have looked at the growth of GDP in the Weimar republic in the early 1930s, you may have been tempted to think that the German economy was really thriving. German citizens were spending increasingly massive amounts of money. But of course that money was becoming increasingly worthless at the same time as hyperinflation spiralled out of control.

Well, today the purchasing power of our dollar is rapidly eroding as the price of food and other necessities continues to increase. So just because Americans are spending a little bit more money than before really doesn’t mean much of anything. As you will see below, there are a whole bunch of other signs that the U.S. economy is in very, very serious trouble.

Any “recovery” that the U.S. economy is experiencing is illusory and will be quite temporary. The entire financial system of the United States is falling apart, and the powers that be can try to patch it up and prop it up for a while, but in the end this thing is going to come crashing down.

But as obvious as that may seem to most of us, there are still quite a few people out there that are absolutely convinced that the U.S. economy will fully recover and will soon be stronger than ever.

So the following are 25 questions to ask anyone who is delusional enough to believe that this economic recovery is real….

#1) In what universe is an economy with 39.68 million Americans on food stamps considered to be a healthy, recovering economy? In fact, the U.S. Department of Agriculture forecasts that enrollment in the food stamp program will exceed 43 million Americans in 2011. Is a rapidly increasing number of Americans on food stamps a good sign or a bad sign for the economy?

#2) According to RealtyTrac, foreclosure filings were reported on 367,056 properties in the month of March. This was an increase of almost 19 percent from February, and it was the highest monthly total since RealtyTrac began issuing its report back in January 2005. So can you please explain again how the U.S. real estate market is getting better?

#3) The Mortgage Bankers Association just announced that more than 10 percent of U.S. homeowners with a mortgage had missed at least one payment in the January-March period. That was a record high and up from 9.1 percent a year ago. Do you think that is an indication that the U.S. housing market is recovering?

#4) How can the U.S. real estate market be considered healthy when, for the first time in modern history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together?

#5) With the U.S. Congress planning to quadruple oil taxes, what do you think that is going to do to the price of gasoline in the United States and how do you think that will affect the U.S. economy?

#6) Do you think that it is a good sign that Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor of the state of California, says that “terrible cuts” are urgently needed in order to avoid a complete financial disaster in his state?

#7) But it just isn’t California that is in trouble. Dozens of U.S. states are in such bad financial shape that they are getting ready for their biggest budget cuts in decades. What do you think all of those budget cuts will do to the economy?

#8) In March, the U.S. trade deficit widened to its highest level since December 2008. Month after month after month we buy much more from the rest of the world than they buy from us. Wealth is draining out of the United States at an unprecedented rate. So is the fact that the gigantic U.S. trade deficit is actually getting bigger a good sign or a bad sign for the U.S. economy?

#9) Considering the fact that the U.S. government is projected to have a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit in 2010, and considering the fact that if you went out and spent one dollar every single second it would take you more than 31,000 years to spend a trillion dollars, how can anyone in their right mind claim that the U.S. economy is getting healthier when we are getting into so much debt?

#10) The U.S. Treasury Department recently announced that the U.S. government suffered a wider-than-expected budget deficit of 82.69 billion dollars in April. So is the fact that the red ink of the U.S. government is actually worse than projected a good sign or a bad sign?

#11) According to one new report, the U.S. national debt will reach 100 percent of GDP by the year 2015. So is that a sign of economic recovery or of economic disaster?

#12) Monstrous amounts of oil continue to gush freely into the Gulf of Mexico, and analysts are already projecting that the seafood and tourism industries along the Gulf coast will be devastated for decades by this unprecedented environmental disaster. In light of those facts, how in the world can anyone project that the U.S. economy will soon be stronger than ever?

#13) The FDIC’s list of problem banks recently hit a 17-year high. Do you think that an increasing number of small banks failing is a good sign or a bad sign for the U.S. economy?

#14) The FDIC is backing 8,000 banks that have a total of $13 trillion in assets with a deposit insurance fund that is basically flat broke. So what do you think will happen if a significant number of small banks do start failing?

#15) Existing home sales in the United States jumped 7.6 percent in April. That is the good news. The bad news is that this increase only happened because the deadline to take advantage of the temporary home buyer tax credit (government bribe) was looming. So now that there is no more tax credit for home buyers, what will that do to home sales?

#16) Both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac recently told the U.S. government that they are going to need even more bailout money. So what does it say about the U.S. economy when the two “pillars” of the U.S. mortgage industry are government-backed financial black holes that the U.S. government has to relentlessly pour money into?

#17) 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved for retirement. Tens of millions of Americans find themselves just one lawsuit, one really bad traffic accident or one very serious illness away from financial ruin. With so many Americans living on the edge, how can you say that the economy is healthy?

#18) The mayor of Detroit says that the real unemployment rate in his city is somewhere around 50 percent. So can the U.S. really be experiencing an economic recovery when so many are still unemployed in one of America’s biggest cities?

#19) Gallup’s measure of underemployment hit 20.0% on March 15th. That was up from 19.7% two weeks earlier and 19.5% at the start of the year. Do you think that is a good trend or a bad trend?

#20) One new poll shows that 76 percent of Americans believe that the U.S. economy is still in a recession. So are the vast majority of Americans just stupid or could we still actually be in a recession?

#21) The bottom 40 percent of those living in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth. So is Barack Obama’s mantra that “what is good for Wall Street is good for Main Street” actually true?

#22) Richard Russell, the famous author of the Dow Theory Letters, says that Americans should sell anything they can sell in order to get liquid because of the economic trouble that is coming. Do you think that Richard Russell is delusional or could he possibly have a point?

#23) Defaults on apartment building mortgages held by U.S. banks climbed to a record 4.6 percent in the first quarter of 2010. In fact, that was almost twice the level of a year earlier. Does that look like a good trend to you?

#24) In March, the price of fresh and dried vegetables in the United States soared 49.3% - the most in 16 years. Is it a sign of a healthy economy when food prices are increasing so dramatically?

#25) 1.41 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009 – a 32 percent increase over 2008. Not only that, more Americans filed for bankruptcy in March 2010 than during any month since U.S. bankruptcy law was tightened in October 2005. So shouldn’t we at least wait until the number of Americans filing for bankruptcy is not setting new all-time records before we even dare whisper the words “economic recovery”?

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1) 39.68 people on food stamps is bad for the tax payer, good for the deadbeat. But commerce none the less.
2) The housing failure is just another symptom of the yuppie generation living above their means. I honestly could care less that they lost their homes. Maybe they'll get it right next time. Remember people, your bills should not exceed more than 1/3 of your income.
3) Again, they missed their payments. Whose fault is that really?
4) So what? Really, so what? They are more than willing, even eager to sell.
5) I guess that means we'll spend more for gas, drive less or get a car that gets four times the mpg.
6) Arnold Schwarzenegger, your state is failing because it's infected with illegals and you're too whooped to take the cure.
7) That's what happens... and then reality takes over and it hurts, but we survive.

Okay, I have to break here. But that should give people enough ammo to poke at my delusional brain.
Yes, Delusional. It is good that people can suffer while the "domestic" and the international jewish financial interests continue scamming them while they wait for a recovery which won't come this time because the theives are too greedy to quit stealing. You are accustomed to that though. Your'e a prudent survivor and tough! Maybe "reality takes over and it hurts", then reality continues printing more tons of worthless money - and then it kills. Wake up and see - it is not Americans in charge.
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Flanders, most of my comment was for the sake of getting the conversation going, but, at the same time.... Much of what I see/hear in this 25 question essay, is that annoying whine of entitlement. I'm okay with a rude awakening and here's why. If people want change, they will need to see a need for it. They will have to feel the burn to know the pan is hot. Because they don't seem capable of understanding that if it's on the burner and the stove is on, it's most likely hot. They have become accustomed to having big brother tell them, ''hey, that pans hot.'' Even when it's not. I know, lame analogy (still waking up). Bottom line, I love my fellow Americans and don't want to see them suffer. But, like everything else that has befallen my generation, at least 1/3 only felt they were being negatively impacted. When in actuality their circumstances hadn't changed at all during this latest economic crisis. Two people I work with, both earning the same as they were prior to the crisis, had their homes foreclosed on. Both filed bankruptcy. One let their car go into repo. I asked what happened. '' It's the economy.'' Standard answer. When asked what they mean by that, they really can't say. NOTHING changed for them financially. They had simply jumped on a band wagon of mass hysteria and stopped paying their bills. Some were trying to get government bailouts with loan modifications that never happened. Some were looking for leniency because of the ''crisis''. I have absolutely no misconceptions on how catastrophic our current finances are. But, breaking it down to the individual, some, much has been brought about from simply trying to maintain a lifestyle they really never could afford.
Do you listen to that financial guru, Dave Ramsey? He says just what your saying.

My wife loved that guy on the drive home from work. Now all she has is Dr. Laura Crapslinger, or that wacky UFO/Lets-all-love-each-other show.
I've never listened to him. Actually, most of my thoughts are generated within my own mind. Probably explains why I'm not always on top of every issue. Or the most educated person commenting. It's just my own general observances. And, as cold as it is... I really don't care that these people are financially suffering. One could make the argument that I have suffered some over the last 30 years, by way of sacrifices. But, I feel pretty secure, so I don't see it as suffering. Plus, I would work a minimum wage job if I had to. AND, most importantly, I could survive on it. I could also survive on unemployment if needed. Or if worse came to worse, savings. If things became so bad, I could survive on the land alone. Of course I'd kidnap reality101 to help there, he's much better at trapping rodents than I am.
You don't think everyone who has some common sense and knows how to budget listens to some radio guy do you?
I got all of my knowledge from my parents. They drilled into us that credit was BAD! They were right.
I have a mortgage, and I owe less than half the value of my home, even after the market tanked. I could make my house payment with a minimum wage job. I have saved enough to pay all of my monthly expenses for 3 years if something were to happen to my income. I have credit cards but never charge anything that is not included in my budget already and I pay them in full each month. I have an "Emergency fund" for just that, emergencies. I budget money for car repairs and maintenance, I use my highest month of billing for each utility to set my budget, that way there are no surprises. If my bill is less the difference goes to the mortgage, savings or the IRA's.
Some of my costs have gone up in the last 2 years, however my income has not, because of the economy. That has no effect on my ability to pay my bills, since I live well below my income level.

It's just sound financial planning & living. Of course it's not what you will learn from a financial expert. Sound advice comes from those who have lived through the worst and were no worse for it.

So like many others I really don't care who foots the government hand-outs, or supports which bill, except as how it will effect my family, personal privacy and ability to support myself.

I have camping equipment just in case the world economy comes to a screeching halt someday.
"You don't think everyone who has some common sense and knows how to budget listens to some radio guy do you?"

Zounds, no! I was just making small talk.

My woman and I are well prepared should things tank also, she has a pretty pink dress that is bound to earn us a few bucks.

:-)
Ahhhhhh I had not planned for that contingency! I better find a cute dress, just in case someone has something I don't and I want it.

Hey who's the UFO/lets all love each other show?

I'm just worried when the grid goes down how am I gonna open my cans of food? : -D
I don't remember what it was called I heard him on the drive home from midnight Mass this past Christmas. I thought it was a joke at first, and wife was like,"Nooo, no. This guy is dead serious".

Freaky people out there. I just try to keep my head down and stay out of the line of fire.
With the moral decline of our world, you may consider the amount of money you could make wearing that little pink dress, RH. Hehehehe.
Thou maketh a goodly point fair maiden...lol.
And since You brought it up... I'm inclined to think that you would actually don the dress before you would ever allow your wife to. Should it come to that. Of course there are much more clever ways to survive. I would never see this as a last option. As I know you wouldn't either.

So, other than what you've already said, what do you make of the topic of discussion?
Well I disagree with you on the first part of point number two. The housing crises has more to do with sub-prime lending forced onto banks by the feds then yuppies who lived beyond their means. When the feds started forcing banks to accept welfare payments as "income" on their bank applications somebody had to know that was a monumentally bad idea which would only produce a bad outcome.

I don't think it fair to lay the blame solely upon the altar of "yuppiedom", though they share some of the blame they don't come close to those who used welfare/unemployment income to buy a house. Those people should never have been allowed to buy what was vastly more expensive for them than what the upper middle class pseudo-elite were purchasing.

I think all Max is trying to drive at is that if their was a recovery actually in effect then the probability of these things occurring with the increased rate should be minimal and not quite so high.

Though I'm no statistician, it would seem reasonable to agree with that sentiment.
All good points, Roman. I should certainly include the government subsidized as well. But it still boils down to us, who we have become. When we lost sight of the pursuit of happiness and began the pursuit of money and objects. Are we in a recovery? What does that really mean? A recovery from what? The most recent economic crisis? I guess when I hear recovery, I think that means being restored to a previously healthy status. Where as I don't really recall ever having been there. And I don't think it can be with money alone. We have to change our mindset, to change our situation. From the extremely elite to the incredibly poor. And I don't think people are really willing to do that. So they compile statistics and forecasts and strategies. Never looking at the root cause.
While, I agree that each person needs to "lift up the lid" a bit more often and take responsibility for their own complacency, we shouldn't lose sight of the reason sites like this exist. To proclaim the truth about the "enemy inside the gates" and their use of financial trickery (usurious lending practices, fractional reserve, etc) to (in effect) enslave a dumbed down population ripe for the picking.

I'm not saying we should use that as an excuse to be irresponsible, but its good to know when playing cards whether on not the deck is stacked against you, so if someone should choose to play (or has to) they can prepare a proper plan of action to minimize any eventual pain they may suffer.

(tell me if that made any sense?)
You should know me well enough by now, to know I will never just open my mouth as someone spoons in the food. I have no problem with the story our generous host has supplied and don't even disagree with it. But, you should also know me well enough by now, to know that I'll generally start out in opposition, for the sake of a quality argument.

And yes, you did make sense. The part about ''lifting the lid'' was genius. Whomever taught you that is well ahead of their time. lol.

Salty potato anyone?
i thought you'd appreciate that.
:)
Here's another list of indicators.

I Knew The Economy Was Bad When:

1. I heard that Brad and Agelina fired their nannies and are trying to learn the names of their own children.

2. I got a "predeclined" credit card in the mail.

3. The bank returned my check marked "insufficient funds", and they meant them ...

4. I ordered a burger at McDonald's, and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"

5. Motel Six won't leave the light on anymore.

6. A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico.

7. Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen!!

Courtesy of Taminath.
LOL to number 7.
Yeah, number two is good too.
Every question above can be answered by using only a few answers.
1. People wanted things now, they wanted more than they could afford and they did not save for them or budget for them.
2. Government is way too intrusive in Americans lives. If they got out of the way and quit supporting those that won't support themselves, eventually there wouldn't be any need for social services. You can thank the "New Deal" for this problem.
3. Government has never had a workable budget. They spend first, then try to take more money from taxpayers to cover their asses. It's been going on for decades.
4. Our government leaders are no more intelligent than the average village idiot. Not one of them understands savings, budgets or how a regular American lives.

I feel sorry that some people never figured out you can't spend more than you make. I'm sure they are now learning it the hard way.
I have 3 years of expenses saved. I did not buy more house than I could afford. When the market peaked, I did not pull out a penny of equity.
My parents lived through FDR's giant government mistake called the new deal which extended and worsened the depression in the US. I learned from them how to live without government hand-outs.
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I'm on the same page as you. Our government couldn't balance a budget if their nation depended on it. But neither can the average citizen. Somewhere along the way people decided that they could not only commit every dollar they earn to having the biggest and best of every little thing, they also decided they could charge the rest. Many of them didn't have any concept of whether they had job security or a rainy day savings. They are flagrant with their spending/charging habits. And they are the first to crash. And the first to blame the government. Things will get worse before they get better. Many will lose everything and some will lose none. Self reliance is the only way. I don't count on SS benefits being there when I come of age. I don't count on medicare being there. I don't assume that the governments going to feed me or house me. I don't even want to.
Re: #1

That would be the same universe where they keep raising the levels of what is considered safe amounts of radioactive material in our drinking water.

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